Meeting Minutes

Tollgate Trail Finders General Meeting Minutes 

Tollgate Trailfinders Minutes – Board Meeting Nov. 12th 2016

President Bob Carrell opened the meeting.  Minutes were read by Secretary Dottie Carrell, and the treasury report was given by Tammy Christensen.  Our balance was $8937.50.  Membership was reported by Connie Smith as 59 members paid.

The Youth safety class was a success with 16 kids in attendance.  The club donated $100 to the instructor to further snowmobile safety for youth.  Susie the instructor also gave an avalanche awareness class in the afternoon.

Cecil Berry gave his trail report.  Logs on the trails from fallen trees have been cut so groomers can push them out of the way.  Trails are in good shape brushing wise except for one place on lower trails at Mud Flats. Woodland trail problem area has been drained and Cecil has placed a culvert.  The Forest Service is supposed to finish the repair from logging activities there.  We decided to put up poles and ropes at Mud Flats on the weekend of Nov. 26th and Bob will contact the land owner. 

Dottie gave groomers report from Jess Thompson’s emails.  Groomer machines are repaired and ready to go.  Forest Service has informed the club and groomers that there will be logging activities out bt Lookout mountain

We discussed the following items:

  • Clubhouse needs to be opened more on weekends.  Ideally for members but first timers can use it also.  We talked about opening the club on Saturdays between 10 and 2pm.  We should have donuts, coffee, or hot dogs, for example, to distribute with donations.
  • Selling Sno Park permits was discussed.  We need someone to steer head this project.
  • General membership could have a theme to educate the attendees.  Radio usage, creation of rescue call list, trail safety, and avalanche awareness are topics that were brought up.
  • New logo for the club has been created.  We discussed have t-shirts and hoodies made with our new logo and selling these for fund raisers.




Trailfinders Board and friends Aug. 9th Round Table Pizza

Tollgate Trailfinder’s Minutes August 9th 2016 – Board

 The meeting was opened by Bob Carrell.  The meeting was informal and we did not do a sign in sheet. This meeting was to kick around ideas for projects, membership recruitment, and fundraisers.  Agreed upon goals were to be Friendly, include Family events, focus on Safety, be of Service, and Have FUN!  Board, or any members are encouraged to talk to President Bob (bcarrell2@aol.com, 509-947-2944) if there is a task they would like to work on, and Vice President Brandon (brandon.christensen@repowell.com) if there is an event they want to help with.

Fund Raiser ideas:

  • Clubhouse open during the winter for donuts and coffee, pancake breakfasts, and maybe spaghetti feeds.  Mostly on Saturdays.
  • Have the clubhouse open for people to heat their lunch and get warm. 
  • Have T-Shirts and or Hoodies made with a cool new logo and sell them. (Andrew will work on a new logo).  We pretty much agreed on Hoodies $45.
  • Make 2017 calendars to sell, with photos of great snowmobiling or shelter feeds from Tollgate.  Send photos to Ann at premium_post@opticom.com
  • Guide trail rides for a donation.  Or help get people get unstuck for a donation.  This idea was not fully agreed on or developed yet.
  • We could raise our dues to $75 from $50. Much discussion followed this suggestion.  A lot thought we could do this without any negative feedback, some were worried about complaints and wanted to do this dues hike after months of discussion with the general membership.


 Events ideas:  (Let’s make sure we put the events on our Facebook too)

  • Family ride to end at shelter with a hot dog feed
  • Poker run and or Geo cache with GPS
  • Hard rides and easy rides.


We will have a Youth Safety class on Nov. 12th at our clubhouse.  Youth ages 8-15.  The teacher requests trying to limit the class to 15 youth.  Tammy Davenport has volunteered to be our contact for the class (541-566-0381) davenporttd@gmail.com.

Also, the instructor is willing to teach a short basic avalanche class.  EMT Gary Stratton is willing to teach an adult and youth combined first aid on that same day too.   It may be a long day but it is good to put these classes on while everyone is up on the mountain.   The Youth class will go from 9am to 1pm.

Trail Maintenance was discussed and the idea of using an “Adopt a Trail” system was brought up.  Each neighborhood or road would be responsible for the trail closest to them.  This system was used years ago with some success but we would need to remind people and encourage them.  We need to get permission from land owners and the Forest Service to access dirt roads where trails need trimming.  Cody Smith will talk to Hans to see what is currently the best way to approach the Forest Service.    Areas that need trimming or work are:

  • Lower trails from McDougal on down (with owner’s permission)
  • From Andy’s Prairie up to ridge and also across the highway from Andy’s.
  • Signage needs to be redone up by Bone due to logging activities last summer.
  • Need to fix the trail between summer cabins and Woodland Sno Park due to damage to the culvert there (see if loggers are responsible).
  • Outhouse at Ruckle shelter needs to be replaced. Get a grant or volunteers?  Or have a crappy fundraiser?


Meeting was adjourned.

Minutes taken by Dottie Carrell 8-9-16




TTF Minutes, General Meeting   3/5/16        [Election]

Dewayne opened the meeting.  The minutes from Feb. 13th were read by Dottie, motioned and passed as presented.   Bob presented the treasurers report with a balance of $9881.00.  This included payments to OSSA for memberships, and this year’s Liability insurance.  We also paid $380 for the WSSA hot dog and club spaghetti feeds last month, but we did collect $276 back in donations (plus $50 from sale of leftovers). The normal bills of groomer phone, club electric, weather station Dish, and stamps were included in the report.  The report was motioned and passed as presented.

The need to cut wood at Bone Springs/ Chapman was brought up by Bob Smith.  A permit needs to be obtained from the Forest Service on Rose St. in Walla Walla.  A date of July 23rd was chosen and Bob Smith volunteered to head up the work party.

The ropes and poles at Mud Flats on the lower trail need to be removed in April.  A date of April 16 was chosen for this work party.  It was decided to do the Steak out Event at the clubhouse on the same day.  Bob Carrell and Brandon will head up that day’s events. 

Both these dates will need to be announced on the web page and on our Facebook.

The Forest Service had contacted the groomers and the club about logging this month on the trail between Summer Cabins and Woodland Sno Park.  Dottie and Jess had been asked to participate on a conference call with the Forest Service on March 1st.   As representatives for all snowmobilers’ safety, we communicated the position that there is no way to make sure the trails are safe if loggers are working on or across the trails especially during regular snowmobile season. The logging company committed to the Forest Service that they would have signage, flaggers, and limited hours of operation.  We again emphasized that it is always an unsafe situation when you have two very different operations using the same trails at the same time.  The Forest Service initially agreed with our position and told the loggers they could not begin logging until April 1st.  Then a few days later came back with another proposal to the club asking if the loggers should be allowed to merely cross the trail to do minimal work before the end of the season.  We agreed they could cross the trail twice with a single piece of equipment and those crossings would only occur on Wednesday March 23, and Thursday March 24th.  For further information the person we dealt with at the Walla Walla F.S. group was Mike R at 509-522-6293 or 509-386-6724.

Dottie presented a motion to approve the purchase of a new backup power supply unit for the weather station.  The two small ones have out lived their shelf life and a new one is $198.00 which is a larger one made to last 6 – 8 hours. The motion was seconded and passed with a vote in favor.

The previous old business motion was brought up by Dewayne regarding revoking the membership of Jimmy Taylor due to his aggressive actions and threats prior to his resignation.  No apologies in any form have come from Jimmy and Jimmy was not present at this meeting.  Dewayne motioned to table the motion again since Jimmy was not present to discuss the issues.  The motion was seconded, and voted and passed with one vote against tabling the issue again.

A question about side by side owners belonging to the club was brought up from the floor.  Dottie stated that over the snow side by sides are legal according to the Forest Service.  Mike Kelly brought up that we should contact them by sending them membership registration cards when we mail out our next cards for next season.  Connie agreed to get a list of name and addresses from Mike and include them in the next mass mailing.

We discussed having a Steak cook out in April.  A date of April 16th was set.  The club will provide the baked potatoes and BBQs with everyone bringing their own steaks.

Glen Warren with WSSA said a big thank you to the club for facilitating the rides and hot dog feed on Presidents Day weekend.

The Bone Chapman Shelter needs to be closed the end of this month.  Rod volunteered to lock it up provided he can get there on Weds. March 30th.

A summer work party to trim brush on the trails was discussed.  We need to trim on the lower trails by hand or get permission to take a side by side down the trails.  Jess will work with Bob and Dewayne to get the Forest Service trails brushed professionally with the OSSA monies. During the summer we also need to fix intersection signage and/or any signage that has fallen.  We need to replace the stop sign at Woodland highway crossing.  Andrew Grissom volunteered to assist in getting the signs in a good more permanent way.  Signage of arrows and diamonds exist at the groomers shed.  Buckshot volunteered to work with the Forest Service to get the culvert fixed at the Woodland crossing.

Lynn Kent proposed having club events for the kids and families during ride days.  Sledding and hot dog feeds were suggested.   Tim the Sheriff said that we need to avoid the Boy Scout weekend at Andies’ Prairie when we schedule events for kids.

Tim also brought up the fact that we need to get the Youth Safety Class going again.  We asked for a volunteer to head up that project of finding instructors.  Tammy Davenport volunteered and Dottie said she would help her start with a list of phone numbers and sources.


There were no contested positions and no write ins for club officers so we took a tally of raised hands to elect the officers.  Bob Carrell, President, Brandon Christensen Vice President, Dottie Carrell Secretary, and Tammy Christensen Treasurer.

For Board positions we had 8 people running and 7 positions to fill.  The ballots were passed out and a secret ballot vote was taken.  Independent individuals were selected to count the votes.  The newly elected Board members are:

Jack Preston, Mike Kelly, Cody Smith, Donnie Hanson, Andrew Grissom, Cecil Berry, and Bob Smith.

Minutes from Meetings in 2013
January 29, 2013


Jack Preston opened and ran the meetings in Jimmy Taylor’s absence.  Minutes were read and Treasurer’s report was given.  Our bank balance is $14,313.53.  The treasurer’s report and minutes were approved by vote.

Groomers report was given by Jess Thompson.  Not enough snow to groom but equipment is ready.  Ruckle Shelter not open yet because of the 4 wheeler abuse.  There is not enough snow to keep the 4 wheelers away even though they are illegal.

Steve and Larry from the Forest Service were present to talk to us about the trail work needed across from Spout Springs Ski Resort.  First Larry spoke to let us know how much our work as a club is appreciated, and needed.  Steve Anderson then spoke about the section where a spring has washed out the trail in front of the summer homes across from Sprout Springs.  Steve said to get it fixed the club needs to write a letter requesting the Forest Service supply materials (ie. rock and dirt) needed to fill in the area.  Buckshot agreed to run his dump truck and Trailfinders will pay for the fuel.   It was also brought up that another section of trail near there may need a culvert.  Bob Smith volunteered to write the letter.

The Board discussed a rides and events schedule.  Jan. 18th is the Ladies Ride and dinner at clubhouse.  It was suggested by Dino that we hold a Poker Run this year.  Jack asked for a volunteer to lead the Poker Run but no one volunteered.  Jimmy T has said he will do rides on the Hanford long weekends.  That would be Feb 1st and 15th, and March 1st and 15th.  Our membership banquet will be held on March 15th.  We need people to step up and volunteer to lead these events.

The OSSA convention is January 17th, 18th 19th at Mt. Hood.  Flyers and registration forms were at the back table by the door.  This is the same weekend as our Ladies ride.  There are about 30 ladies signed up, so dinner the Saturday dinner could be as many as 60.

New Business was requested first thing in the General meeting – Dino asked if the groomers could go out for bid on the fuel purchase.  Jess said that he has been asked that same thing recently and is looking into it.   It was motioned, seconded, and passed that bids be solicited and Jess has final say on the fuel decision.

We will be having a trail maintenance work party to put up arrows and diamonds.  This work needs to be done when there is enough snow to get to all trails.  If you want to volunteer for that service work please give your phone number or email number to Dottie.

Membership was reported on by Marcella.  We have 82 members paid as of this date.  Post cards with our registration forms will be sent out to people on our list who have previously been members.

Our Youth Safety class went really well thanks to the volunteers and the great young people taking the class.

 Jack reminded us that we have several Board positions up for re-election as well as Officer slots.  He suggested a committee to come up with people willing to fill those slots.  Bob and Connie Smith and Dwayne Hargrove were volunteered.

Sheriff Tim Roberts announced that he is retired down to part time.  He will still respond to trespassing issues and still be patrolling the mountain via snowmobile.

Bob Carrell reported on the lower trails.  On the south side of the highway about mile post 14,Couse Creek trail will be closed, according to the current owner/leasee Hancock Forest Co.  It was asked if we need to remove our trail signs and what is the rule on trail liability insurance since Hancock is not physically closing the trail entrances.  Dottie was put to task to call Peggy at OSSA about trail insurance and Andy Milar the lawyer.  It was agreed that a posting on the webpage stating we are not grooming or maintaining that trail this season would help with our liability. 

A Liability insurance issue also exists with renting out our clubhouse to outside parties, for example Langdon Lake and Forest Service.   It was agreed to look into the cost of a policy to cover these outside events so the clubhouse could get used once in a while.  Also, Tim brought up that those wanting to rent can obtain a onetime rider to cover the event.

It was motioned, seconded and passed to close the meeting and eat!


[minutes taken by Dottie Carrell]



Tollgate Trail Finders Meeting Minutes November 2nd 2013

Officers Jimmy Taylor, Bob Carrell, and Dottie Carrell called the meeting to order.  Minutes from October 5th were read.

Treasurer’s report was given by Bob Carrell.  The bank account total was reported as $14,952.15.  Outgoing costs include building insurance, electricity, phone lines, and OSSA member dues. Incoming monies were from membership dues.   

Minutes and Treasurer’s report was approved.

Membership Report given by Marcella Morrow – 65 members paid for the new season so far.  Our membership recruitment letter cost $114 and was mailed to everyone listed on the last two years’ rosters.

We will be having a Youth Safety class on Saturday Dec. 14th.  Kim Schwartz will be teaching it.  We will need volunteers to do registration and help with testing at the end of the day. The class info has been put on the website. 

Groomer’s report was given by Jess Thompson.  The machines are being finalized for the upcoming season.  The ’98 needs a part which is on order and it will cost between $3500 and $4000, with a total repair cost of $5500 and $6000 paid by OSSA.  Our fuel (diesel) costs are between $9000 and $10,000 – also paid by OSSA.

Trail Maintenance report given by Bernie Chapman.  We need to get a work party together to put up arrows on all trails but this will be easier to do on snowmobiles.  Dottie will post it on the website whenever we know that we can get to all trails.  Bernie reported that the power company had cut off some of our highway stop signs and he got them back in place.  We also need to plan a way to work on the trail across from Andy’s Prairie and the 2nd Sno Park, and across from Sprout Springs Ski Area by the Cabins. There are mud holes that need drainage.  We need to get approval from the Forest Service to do this work.

Mud Flats and the Lower Trails need a work party to put up ropes and signage.  We will meet to do the work on November 16th at the clubhouse at 9am and Bob and Brandon will organize it.  

Couse Creek trail at the bottom has been closed by Hancock Timber Company that owns or leases that property so we will not be able to groom on that North side of the highway.

New Business:

RE Powell has announced potentially discontinuing propane delivery.  The Board discussed options of other companies to deliver next summer and possibly buying our storage tanks.

It was suggested and questioned whether to keep the vice president position open to recruit new officers.  Jack Preston brought up that several positions will need to be filled Spring 2014, including Sargent at Arms.

A motion was made and seconded to close the meeting.

            [ Minutes taken by Dottie Carrell ]



Tollgate Trail Finders Board  October 5th, 2013

Officers Jimmy Taylor, Bob Carrell, and Dottie Carrell called the meeting to order.  Minutes from March 3rd  Board and General meeting were made available.

Jimmy announced president Ken’s resignation.  Jimmy will act as president and vice president until elections in March 2014.   Dottie asked if anyone wanted to volunteer to help with the vice president’s job, event organization, but no one raised their hand.

Treasurer’s report was given by Bob Carrell.  The bank account total was reported as $14,004.00.  Outgoing costs include building insurance, propane for heat, electricity, and two phone lines – one for weather station modem an one for groomer’s snowline.  Bob also told us that he has filed a non-profit tax return for the club.   

The weather station status was reported on.  All hardware on roof and inside has been updated.  The internet connection has been tested and changed.  The new camera did not work without broadband but we may use it soon if cell signal changes or use the new camera in a different location.  It was requested by board members to have the NOAA link changed back to weather projections from history.  It was also asked that Dottie totally update the Board Members list on our website.

We will be having a Youth Safety class on Saturday Dec. 14th.  Kim Schwartz will be teaching it.  Some volunteers have been collected.  The class info will be put on the TTF website.  If we have a ride scheduled for that day the snowmobilers will need to meet outside in parking lot.

Groomer’s report was given by Jess.  The machines have been worked on this summer. The ’08 has a new track and cleats, and the ’98 has had its transfer case rebuilt.  These repairs have cost thousands of dollars which is paid for by OSSA money.  Bob C. asked Jess if they still had to buy bio-diesel and Jess said yes they do.  Also, Jess told us the state may reduce us to only one cat groomer in 4 years.  If we were able to get a new cat they are now wider – 12 feet instead of 10 which could mean a lot of trail work.

Amy announced the Ladies Ride is scheduled for Jan 17th thru the 20th, Friday thru Monday since that is a holiday weekend.  Feeding the ladies and everyone else that weekend was discussed.  Looks like we may do a breakfast on Saturday Jan 18th if we get enough volunteers.  We will need to stop serving breakfast at 9:30am so volunteers can also ride that day.  A Ladies Ride dinner is planned for that Saturday evening in the clubhouse and Connie Smith volunteered to head that up.

Membership was reported on by Marcella.  Renewal cards and a club info letter will be mailed out this week.   

New Business

            It was suggested that we hold a breakfast on Saturday Dec. 28th.  We will need to post that event once we get enough volunteers. 

            Bob C. reported on some proposed changes to the lower trails.  The long way up (Shumway) on the south side of Highway 204 was asked to be re-routed away from Jim Malcolm’s cabin front door.  Also, Rose Manor trailer park on Lincton Mt. Rd. has asked for ropes to protect their sledding hill from riders who go off trail there.  The ropes were discussed as they are a hazard too.  Couse Creek has been in question (our lowest part of the trail system) as we were not able to yet re-negotiate a lease or written permission.  And the lower Cold Springs Loop will not be groomed this season because a land owner closed off his property.

            It was suggested by Steve Noirot that we be careful what we put on the facebook Trailfinders page.  Steve also suggested ways to get more members (Sno-Park signups and raffles which have both been tried more than once).


            [ Minutes taken by Dottie Carrell ]



           Meeting minutes from January 2013 meeting

The webcam and weather station system was discussed.  The weather station is over 20 years old.  Dennis from NOAA was asked about replacement cost and he believes it would be $500 to $600 needed to replace the weather station and $900 to replace a compatible camera.  While collecting donations for this replacement system we need to make sure and specify what the money will be spent on.  We agreed to have a goal amount of $2000 to include the third piece of a compatible computer.  We can report on our progress on the webpage. 

            It was brought up that we could bring in donations by holding a dinner or a breakfast at the club.  The breakfast was by far the favorite and it was motioned on and passed to buy food for the breakfast to be held on Ladies Ride Saturday especially with the Guy ride occurring on the same day.  Dottie will purchase food at cash and carry and Marcella, Rod, and Bob will cook with Jimmy doing everything else.

            Buckshot has been cleaning the snow around the clubhouse and we agreed to pay him $100 to cover his costs.  Dottie will mail him a check.

            It was reported that SnoWest magazine has run an article about Tollgate snowmobiling in its January Volume 40 issue.

            A 50/50 drawing was held in the General Membership meeting.  Carl was the winner with a total of $56 collected.  Carl donated his winnings back to the weather station fund.

February 2nd is our next meeting.

Meeting Adjoined.

            [ Minutes taken by Dottie Carrell ]